Friday, February 10, 2012

Islam Exposed


The blasphemy laws are alive and well in Saudi Arabia. Those who say that they have no part of Sharia as it comes to the West are not being honest; there is no school of Islamic jurisprudence that does not call for death for blasphemy.
Hamza Kashgari has fled the country, but was detained in Malaysia. "Saudi Hamza Kashgari faces death calls after prophet tweets," from AFP, February 10:
A Saudi internet surfer checking her twitter account at a coffee shop in Riyadh. Twitter and Facebook are controversial forms of communication in the conservative country.
A YOUNG Saudi journalist is facing calls for his execution after tweeting about the Prophet Mohammed, and the kingdom's top clerics are demanding his trial after denouncing him as an "apostate".
On the occasion of the Muslim prophet's birthday last week, 23-year-old Hamza Kashgari tweeted: "I have loved things about you and I have hated things about you and there is a lot I don't understand about you."
"I will not pray for you," he added.
The controversial tweet sparked a frenzy of responses - some 30,000, according to an online service that tracks tweets in the Arab world.
In one response, Abdullah, a lawyer, said that since Mr Kashgari was "an adult... we should accept nothing but implementing the ruling according to Islamic law" or sharia.
Insulting the prophet is considered blasphemous in Islam, and is a crime punishable by death.
Mr Kashgari quickly apologised for his remarks, but the calls for his execution only multiplied....
Thanks to Carol for the video.
Posted by Robert on February 9, 2012 3:31 PM | 71 Comments
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Author Profile Page Sam Arisan | February 9, 2012 4:14 PM | Reply
I was going to make a comment but what is there to say other than saying that there will be no peace in the world as long as ISLAM is practised. Poor guy, he needs to hide for just giving his opinion. What a crazy world in the 21st century.
Author Profile Page Ima Freeman | February 9, 2012 4:29 PM | Reply
I'm speechless............really. That there is this stupidity, ignorance, mindless subservience and vile decripitude alive and well ANYWHERE in the world in the 21st century boggles the mind. OK, not THAT speechless.........
Ima
Author Profile Page Franklin Amman | February 9, 2012 4:32 PM | Reply
What's with this dude, crying in public while wearing on his head an Italian restaurant's tablecloth?
LOL,
As if Big Mo and his imaginary god named Harvey allah can't protect themselves.
He recovers from his distress pretty well though; says at 00:52 he can't lecture today, but shortly thereafter we see him raving and ranting like he's running for the presidency of Iran. A little joke there, SA is sunni; Iran shiitte.
Author Profile Page traeh | February 9, 2012 4:45 PM | Reply
Islam speaks: SILENCE! Or die.
Author Profile Page TS | February 9, 2012 4:55 PM | Reply
People with souls...artists, people who think and question etc, are not allowed in Islam. What a shame for the world, not just Muslims. sad.
Author Profile Page TS | February 9, 2012 4:57 PM | Reply
It also shows their insecurity as he wasn't nec talking about Muhammed. Thou doth protest too much!
Author Profile Page TS | February 9, 2012 4:59 PM | Reply
And finally, it shows they are cultish!
Author Profile Page TS | February 9, 2012 5:01 PM | Reply
Muhammedanism indeed!
Author Profile Page pdxnag | February 9, 2012 5:02 PM | Reply
It is like the fake reverence for NORK's Dear Leader. Some folks were reportedly punished for not crying hard enough when the prior dicktator died.
They have nothing else. They are intellectually and spiritually dead even if they may appear to be alive.
Why the old farts would choose to keep their kids chained to complete nonsense is like another wonder of the world. People with empty heads will always be among us.
Author Profile Page j_not_a | February 9, 2012 5:16 PM | Reply
Well, slap my azz and call me Lenny - imagine that, a muzloid criticizing ol Mo. Truth really is stranger than fiction.
Author Profile Page David Dowse | February 9, 2012 5:20 PM | Reply
Hey! Maybe this will make him have a nervous breakdown...
1.) I curse Mohammed and Allah with all my heart and soul.
2.) I spit on both of them.
3.) I burn 1 page of the Koran each day, using it to start my fires to cook my dead pig.
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There is no Allah, and there is no Mohammed. They are figments of the imagination.
Still waiting for Allah to mete out his punishment.
Waiting...
Still waiting...
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The Saudis can go f**k themselves.
Author Profile Page Cole | February 9, 2012 5:29 PM | Reply
Understanding Islam and fear!!
The fear that controls it. That holds it perpetually in a stagnant place.
Under these conditions - reform - is simply hazardous to one's health.
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You can almost see Muhammad's Mecca here - in this portrayal.
The guy who is being accused of apostasy - a thinker - people a country needs - would have been like the people back in Mecca - who looked at Muhammad - and really questioned whether he could truly be a Prophet - just by remaking the same religious stone [rock] they had been praying over all this time.

And the others - the emotional outpouring - like watching a Mafia movie - no one wants to offend the Don. And the arrogance - of the Imams and others - must have been like Muhammad's display of arrogance - beyond reason.
Reason that would have allowed moderation. Temperance.
If you named off just some of the things Muhammad did - many Muslims would feel embarrassed or cringe.
The fear of Muhammad's 7th century retribution - slaughter - mayhem - is still there - they are literally followers of Muhammad.
Like a meteorite hurtling through space - it just doesn't change very much. But it can do serious damage to a planet.
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What do we do with a problem like Islam - that believes it should kill its followers for trying to leave it!!
Which of course demonstrates the weakness of Muhammad's ideas - they have to be talked up. We have to stick to a script - because there so little to choose from - and keep repeating it.
He must have said, one good thing in between - slaughtering his non-believing neighbors - lets get that and say it over and over. And that's an order!
People should have the absolute right to be free of this religious tyranny - if they want to be. And you know how people are - they see other people getting out without problems - and they will say this is my chance!!
May the Muslim's fear - not become our terror!! Amen.
Author Profile Page Kinana of Khaybar | February 9, 2012 5:37 PM | Reply
Note the "reasoning" of the sheikh here: Saudi Muslims are going to be in big trouble with Allah, who might destroy them all, if they tolerate this act of blasphemy and public expression of apostasy. They are committing a crime and incurring the wrath of Allah if they allow it to go unpunished. In his view, the only way Saudi Muslims can possibly be granted security from Allah's punishment is to do their duty and punish this blasphemer/apostate.
Also, the sheikh cited 33:57, indicating that those who "annoy" the prophet Muhammad will be cursed in the world and in the hereafter, showing that he takes this as relevant to an earthly punishment of blasphemers.
Author Profile Page descendantofacrusader | February 9, 2012 5:54 PM | Reply
I'm sure this is too simplistic for many but, how pathetically sad is this man, in my opinion, who is unknowingly worshipping Satan (Allah) and his tool Mohammed. His tears for those not caught up in the same evil, that he himself appears enslaved to, should be directed instead toward gaining the salvation he is so foolishly throwing away (John 14:26). Bigoted - xenophobic? Not at all because Christ never expected us to be unsure about what is clearly evil and unGodly - i.e. Islam!
Author Profile Page traeh | February 9, 2012 6:22 PM | Reply
Breakdown! Muslim cleric goes through psychological crisis when someone lets leak a tiny, but burning drop of the acid of truth!
The cleric in the video is perhaps not crying just about the words of the one man in question. Perhaps there is leaking into Saudi Arabia from all over the world via the internet and other modern media a persistent and very blunt dissent to the worst cult leader in recent millennia.
Today on 77 WABC radio (a station that has Limbaugh's show every day), I was profoundly annoyed by a news report in which the announcer referred to "the Prophet Muhammad." Is WABC now a Muslim station? How 'bout a little professional distance there, 77 WABC? Instead say "Islam's prophet, Muhammad," or something like that. Or is the station too afraid to stand up for its independence as a news organization in the face of the standing Islamic death threats declared all over the world to those who don't stay sufficiently in line? I find many tenets of the Islamic religion highly offensive both literally and figuratively, and I find 77 WABC highly offensive when it speaks of "the Prophet Muhammad."
Author Profile Page PGuud | February 9, 2012 6:28 PM | Reply
Nevertheless, the apologists, dupes, fools, tools, and Useful Idiots would like us to believe otherwise.
Take, for instance, Charlie Rose--with this gem of an interview/interviewee:http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/12140
Charlie couldn't have been more pathetic; he should have just prostrated himself.
We are our own worst enemy.
Islam: where freedom ends and slavery begins.
Author Profile Page traeh replied to comment from pdxnag | February 9, 2012 6:37 PM | Reply
Have you ever heard that recording of the Soviets applauding Stalin, where the applause goes on for like fifteen minutes, and everyone in the audience is terrified to be the first to stop applauding, because Stalin will have that person killed? Eventually, some old guy seems to have become exhausted and stopped, and if I recall correctly, he afterwards fared poorly in Stalin's tender care.
Author Profile Page tanstaafl | February 9, 2012 6:39 PM | Reply
He is crying because he knows the walls are tumbling down. The flood will follow.
Author Profile Page tjwork | February 9, 2012 7:11 PM | Reply
Unfortunately, he is currently in custody in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia & would be sent to Saudi Arabia within a week.
In my opinion, the poem he wrote was not too bad.
He did not criticize but merely telling that he is who he is, respects him as a man that he admires & treats him as a man.
Thats a noble thing to say to a man, but sadly he has to die for a man thats already dead.
Author Profile Page gerard | February 9, 2012 7:16 PM | Reply
1:19 and as Ibn Al-Arabi said when he was told: "We should argue atheists through intellectual debates".
He replied: "That's a cold reaction, that should be warmed up with the heat of the sword."
Yep! That's Islam right enough!
Author Profile Page Smredneck5 | February 9, 2012 7:41 PM | Reply
May God protect him.
"Thought Crime" legislation enforced.
Author Profile Page j_not_a | February 9, 2012 9:23 PM | Reply
Traeh, I completely agree that Stalin was truly one of the most nastiest and evil pieces of work to ever exist.(BTW Michael Coren and his show has educated me more on the issue of Stalin and the sheer depths of his depravity) than anyone or anything else).
Amongst the many of his horrible acts, surely one of the worst was his slow, methodical deliberate murdering by starvation of upwards of eight million of my ancestors (Ukranians), being starved while they were able to view with their own eyes grainhouses full to bursting of wheat grown and harvested by the Ukranians themselves) guarded by Stalins thuggish monsters - this was most likely an even worse holocaust than that of the Jews in scope and number).
Not to any way diminish what the Jews suffered, but where are the museums of rememberence of the Ukranian slaughter or the anniversaries, where are their claims for recompense and recognition? There aren't any because instead of letting themselves be whining victims they gathered themselves back up and got on with their lives, contributing vastly to Canadian society by making western Canada a breadbasket to the world which it continues to be to this day. In my immediate family alone, upwards of 200, not one has a criminal record or has ever collected welfare, in fact nearly all own substantial tracts of property, homes and own many various businesses).
No, we Ukranians, who by their own Canadian government, had their lands and properties confiscated, families torn apart and were thrown in jail during WW1 because (my) idiotic Canadian government believed in their deluded minds that just because Ukranians were somehow like Russians, that they were in cahoots with the Russians and were being subvertive) also the Canadian government has never apologized to the Ukranian Canadian people or offered compensation for seized properties and/or punitive damages.
Sorry for going off on a bit of a tangent of sorts, but many people are unaware of this shameful part of history (of the world and of the Canadian government during WW1). My thanks again to the stellar Michael Coren (who is half Jewish/half British) for his persistent championing of the Ukranian Canadians cause, and since the subject of Stalin came up, I thought this subject was appropriate to expound upon at this moment.
There is no reason to believe that another Stalin or Stalins are among us and plotting to impose their insane izlamonazi worldviews on the rest of us (Stalins ideological brothers the izlamonazis) who if given half the chance would inflict even more suffering on the world than their predecessor.
Good night to all and to those who have read these thoughts.
Author Profile Page Buraq | February 9, 2012 10:21 PM | Reply
Thank God for the Internet and the transparency it offers! This allahgator with his crocodile tears could easily have spoken this nonsense and we'd have been none the wiser.
Now, millions can see that Islam is a narrow, vindictive, murdering so-called religion that amounts to anything but peace - unless, by peace, you mean an enforced silence, no questions asked, just mute obedience.
Clown! (Notice the tears were dry. No handkerchief needed.)
Author Profile Page pdxnag replied to comment from traeh | February 9, 2012 10:46 PM | Reply
From a year 2000 piece -- "DON'T BE THE FIRST ONE TO STOP CLAPPING"
Insistence on enforcement of apostasy laws must be the pinnacle of something? (Loonacy and self-doubt? Stuck in a historical rut?)
Author Profile Page No Fear | February 9, 2012 11:13 PM | Reply
Criticising the leader of the totalitarian cult of Islam is the same as criticising a totalitarian leader such as Stalin or Hitler.
Author Profile Page champ | February 9, 2012 11:18 PM | Reply
he deserves an oscar for the worst boo-hoo performance I've ever witnessed ...
Author Profile Page No Fear | February 9, 2012 11:29 PM | Reply
If I made a video like that and showed it to my colleagues they would commit me to a mental hospital. If you believe such garbage as the Quran then expect mental illness to follow.
Author Profile Page BrenK | February 10, 2012 12:07 AM | Reply
Just in case anybody wants to know what happened to him... He got arrested in Malaysia.
Author Profile Page Cyril | February 10, 2012 12:10 AM | Reply
Was he crying or is it tears of joy!!
Author Profile Page Counterjihad2012 | February 10, 2012 1:00 AM | Reply
The inventor & owner of Facebook is a Jew, Mr. Zuckerberg
The word of the sadist allah:
‎5:73 “They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity:
for there is no god except One God.
If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy),
verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers
among them.”
Author Profile Page Counterjihad2012 | February 10, 2012 1:10 AM | Reply
Another word of the coward sadist allah:
4:89 "(apostates) SLAY THEM wherever ye find them"
Author Profile Page D | February 10, 2012 2:40 AM | Reply
This could be a scene from the United States or any other western country 20 years from now if Hitlary Clinton & her Muslim buddies are able to pass the no criticise Islam law (blaspheny) that they are desperate to pass.
Author Profile Page groucho | February 10, 2012 3:50 AM | Reply
The sooner we stop buying their blood oil the better. i want ethical oil. unfortunately with their oil comes a cancer,a cancer comes. and what's with the crying? tell him to "go take a flying fuck at a rolling donut" Kurt Vonnegut jr.
Author Profile Page guide inside replied to comment from descendantofacrusader | February 10, 2012 3:55 AM | Reply
How pathetically sad, indeed! In John 10:10 Jesus says "The thief (Satan, Mo, Allah) comes ONLY in order to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have and enjoy life, have it in abundance to the full, until it overflows!
I have come to believe that Islam is the tool that Father God is using today to convict the west of their sins and to return to Him just as He had done before when He caused the Assyrians and the Babylonians to attack Israel. We are called the New Jerusalem, aren't we.
The new runaway best seller "The Harbinger" lists the nine harbingers about 911 written by Messianic Rabbi Jonathon Cahn. The USA is still the nation founded on the Bible and HE wants us back!
Author Profile Page Steffen Larsen | February 10, 2012 3:56 AM | Reply
Poor man ...poor man ...
Clearly what we are seeing here is an old man who at long last has bothered to read some of the central tenets of the socio-religio-political movement that goes by the name of "Submission", and it obviously is a complete contrast to everything he has believed until now.

It therefore comes as no surprise that he is truck to the deepest core of his inner self. I feel terribly sorry for him.
Author Profile Page guide inside replied to comment from descendantofacrusader | February 10, 2012 3:57 AM | Reply
How pathetically sad, indeed! In John 10:10 Jesus says "The thief (Satan, Mo, Allah) comes ONLY in order to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have and enjoy life, have it in abundance to the full, until it overflows!
I have come to believe that Islam is the tool that Father God is using today to convict the west of their sins and to return to Him just as He had done before when He caused the Assyrians and the Babylonians to attack Israel. We are called the New Jerusalem, aren't we.
The new runaway best seller "The Harbinger" lists the nine harbingers about 911 written by Messianic Rabbi Jonathon Cahn. The USA is still the nation founded on the Bible and HE wants us back!
Author Profile Page Guy Macher | February 10, 2012 4:57 AM | Reply
Takiya tears.
If you can't criticize a lying looting rapist murderer who can you criticize?
This is just another reason why we must eradicate Islam from the civilized world.
Author Profile Page Daniel replied to comment from guide inside | February 10, 2012 5:03 AM | Reply
"I have come to believe that Islam is the tool that Father God is using today to convict the west of their sins and to return to Him"
That's funny because if you go on Muslim forums they are saying the same thing, they think that Allah is using the west to punish them for not being religious enough, and if only they return to practicing the authentic Sharia Allah will raise them up and make them powerful.
Author Profile Page James Smith | February 10, 2012 5:13 AM | Reply
This is why the term "Islamic Scholar" is an oxymoron.
Author Profile Page Dee Walid | February 10, 2012 5:30 AM | Reply
Good afternoon,
The people of the West really have nothing to be proud about anymore, nothing is sacred, nothing is beyond respect, it is no wonder that your children no longer have respect for you, your women spit on you as you are no longer the person who wears (your) pants in the house.
Where ever you look, it is loutish behavior, drunkenness, disrespecting your self and critically everyone else, have you really no lajaa left.
We love our prophet, and really if you can't accept that then just keep it in your little minds, no need to say out loud.
I believe you really lost it when you thought of creating an "equal" society and give a vote to your woman, LAMO, it will eventually bring your society.
Marry them young, and keep yourself respect, and leave our prophet alone.
Dee Walid
Author Profile Page D | February 10, 2012 5:48 AM | Reply
We understand Dee, you love your mass murdering pedophile false prophet Muhammad, who married Aisha when he was 54 & she was 9, and women are nothing but third class citizens who aren't even capable of driving a car & should be raped whenever Muslim men want, we understand all too well.
Author Profile Page Steffen Larsen | February 10, 2012 5:56 AM | Reply
I appreciate it when someone like "Dee Walid" drops in to confirm everything this blog is up against.
Of course, there's also the possibility that Dee is only pretending to be this bigoted. We can never be sure that Dee is not operating under a false flag and deliberately attempting to make Muslims look bad.
Author Profile Page Dee Walid replied to comment from D | February 10, 2012 6:03 AM | Reply
Good Afternoon D,
No you don't understand at all, I would never advocate the rape of women, never!!!!....but you people keep talking about it all the time; you are obsessed with it.
As for Aisha, it was a holy matrimony, not a rape, I wasn't there and neither were you to see if she was nine. She did bear him a child, these are the unknown fruits of the prophet (PBUH); who can understand the will and power of Almighty Allah (SWT) not me but certainly not you.
Note this was unlike his his jewish wife, who poisoned him, but then these are the difference in standards of a muslima and women of all other faiths.
Dee Walid
Author Profile Page D replied to comment from Dee Walid | February 10, 2012 6:45 AM | Reply
"The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)." -- Bukhari 7.62.88
Ah yes Dee, the poisoning of Muhammad by the Jewish woman to test if he was really a prophet or not, he failed that test rather badly didn't he. Historical facts about Muhammad are that he beheaded 800 of his captives & took their women & property as bounty, & that he married Aisha when he was 54 & she was a child. By definition he was a mass murdering pedophile. Let's face it Dee, he was the false prophet Jesus warned about. Islam is based on a crazy (I hear voices in my head) desert rapist & bandit, you Muslims are backing the wrong horse in the race I am afraid.
Author Profile Page Charles Griffith | February 10, 2012 7:15 AM | Reply
We Americans cannot do anything for these hapless Muslims on their home turf or in Muslim dominated countries. They aren't going to change that Sharia-blinkered-view inside those already lost countries.
Europe and England....wake up. You're on the Verge right this hour.
We Americans must concentrate our efforts right now, right here at home in combating those Islamist amongst us as they are gradually establishing a Muslim/Islamist foothold right under our noses. They're very good at infiltrating and using our freedoms against us.
We Americans need to wake up to the hypocrisy of "moderate" Islam here in America.
We Americans must wake up and face that we are indeed in a long-term existential war against encroaching Islam....no less.
For those readers here who aren't familiar with the term - "Fifth Column", I urge you to Google that most approprate and timely term.
Author Profile Page LemonLime | February 10, 2012 7:38 AM | Reply
But most Muslims (perhaps even a "vast majority") aren't this way about blasphemy deserving death; so there's not that much of a problem.
Author Profile Page David Dowse replied to comment from LemonLime | February 10, 2012 7:57 AM |Reply
LL:
"But most Muslims (perhaps even a "vast majority") aren't this way about blasphemy deserving death; so there's not that much of a problem."
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I hope you just forgot the sarc tags, because if you didn't, you are seriously mistaken.
I'm fairly certain that most nominal "Nazis" were, until the rise of Hitler, every-day Germans, and had no intention of wiping the Jews out. Yet those Jews were wiped out in the name of Nazism.
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The same goes for Islam and blasphemy. The ideology demands death for apostacy and blasphemy, much as Hitler demanded subservience to his madness. It matters little if only "a tiny minority" of Islamists are in favor of a death penalty.
Author Profile Page duh_swami replied to comment from Dee Walid | February 10, 2012 8:02 AM |Reply
We love our prophet, and really if you can't accept that then just keep it in your little minds, no need to say out loud.
You cannot love Allah and the 'Prophet' both...To do that, you must split your love up, weakening what you give to Allah in order to give some to Mahound...If you split it equally between them, you are guilty of shirk...
Author Profile Page Abu_Lahab replied to comment from Dee Walid | February 10, 2012 8:28 AM |Reply
Dee Walid: The people of the West really have nothing to be proud about anymore....
And yet we still have far more to be proud of than any islamic nation will ever have.
Have you noticed the correlation between islamic infestation and a decline in Western society? What an amazing coincidence....
In this case correlation IS causation. Please leave.
Author Profile Page miriam rove replied to comment from Dee Walid | February 10, 2012 8:54 AM |Reply
Dee: i usially do not respond to trolls. But let's assume you are for real.
as you may know I was raised a muslim and I know quite a bit about Islam as I was forced to practice it.
as you know Islam is known to be the religion of peace and you also know that muslims cry at the drop of hat like this guy is on this video. However let me tell you my contribition to Islam when I was a teenager. there two most holly holidays in shia Islam which occure in the month of Muharm. they are clled Ashoora and Tasooa.
Ashura is the day the third Imam hussain was killed. my dad used to take me for this happy event!!!!
they would turn they lights off and all the men would be crying over a DB who was killed 1400 years ago. in alll those moment people would be spraying a scent that was made from roses. as soon as the lights went out I would pull out my fountain penn and spray the people. when the lights came back on.. I am sure you can figured the rest of it. However since Islam allows lies, I have to be honest with you and once I got caught and my dad beat the living S out of me!!!
M
Author Profile Page janaki replied to comment from Dee Walid | February 10, 2012 9:00 AM | Reply
"As for Aisha, it was a holy matrimony, not a rape, I wasn't there and neither were you to see if she was nine. "
But she (Ayesha) was there. She told that she was 9 ( read the sahih hadiths). And if you are okay with a 53 year old man having sex with a 9 year old, you are truly lost.
"She did bear him a child, these are the unknown fruits of the prophet (PBUH); "
Ayesha did not have children. (One wonders if the year old body was rendered unable to after early sex)

"Note this was unlike his his jewish wife, who poisoned him, but then these are the difference in standards of a muslima and women of all other faiths."
Which jewish wife of his poisoned him? Can you tell us?
I would bet you have neither read the quran or the hadiths.
Author Profile Page Charleston45 replied to comment from Franklin Amman | February 10, 2012 9:16 AM | Reply

I am in tears too over your Italian tablecloth remark !!! can't stop laughing !
Author Profile Page zonie kafir | February 10, 2012 10:00 AM | Reply
Note this was unlike his his jewish wife, who poisoned him, but then these are the difference in standards of a muslima and women of all other faiths.
Dee Walid...
Dee Walid is a phoney.
Sunis say a Jewish woman, not his wife, poisoned him at Khaybar.
Shia say he was poisoned by Aisha and Hafsa conspiring with their fathers Abu Bakr and Omar.
Nobody says he was poisoned by a Jewish wife.
Sorry Dee. As nabific as I, nabi ZK (pbum), am, I, nabi ZK (pbum), could not let that one slip by. It's just like when "naseem" derided Christians for believing that Mary was a virgin. Since mohametans also believe that "naseem" outed "herself" as a phoney. Dee. You have been hoisted by your own petards.

nabi ZK (pbum)
Author Profile Page traeh replied to comment from LemonLime | February 10, 2012 10:05 AM | Reply
LemonLime,
Here are just a few of many, many news stories about violence and persecution against ex-Muslims (hat tip:http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/012-apostasy.htm)
Author Profile Page traeh | February 10, 2012 10:07 AM | Reply
In Sahih al-Bukhari, the most canonical hadith collection, Muhammad said,

"Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him."

Various other canonical hadiths attest that Muhammad called for death to those who leave Islam. That's why even today all the schools of Islamic law prescribe death for apostasy from Islam.
Author Profile Page traeh | February 10, 2012 10:11 AM | Reply
LemonLime,
A December 2010 survey conducted by the Pew Research Centerfound relatively widespread popular support for death penalty as a punishment for apostasy from Islam: in Egypt (84% of respondents in favor of death penalty), Jordan (86% in favor), Indonesia (30% in favor), Pakistan (76% favor) and Nigeria (51% in favor).
So there is no shortage of Muslims out there willing to kill or have others kill for Islam.
Author Profile Page traeh | February 10, 2012 10:15 AM | Reply
Canonical hadiths say Muhammad (in his fifties) consummated his marriage to Aisha when she was nine (lunar) years old.
A lunar year is about 355 days long, which means that Aisha may have been several months short of her ninth birthday.
Some examples from Bukhari, the most canonical hadith collection:
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
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that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)."
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The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).
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Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old. 
Author Profile Page LemonLime replied to comment from David Dowse | February 10, 2012 10:18 AM |Reply
"It matters little if only "a tiny minority" of Islamists are in favor of a death penalty."
I think it matters a lot how many Muslims support that, or don't. If you had a company of 500 people, and only 5 people supported going postal and killing fellow employees one day with guns, wouldn't that be a hell of a lot better than if 400 out of 500 of them supported that?
I mean, why do I even have to ask this question?
Author Profile Page LemonLime replied to comment from traeh | February 10, 2012 10:25 AM | Reply
traeh,
I don't deny those poll results. It just makes it strange to juxtapose the facts about Muslims which those polls indicate, with statements by Robert Spencer like:
"The fact is, that human nature is everywhere the same. And a parent to kill a child is not a natural impulse -- it goes against every natural impulse. And so, the vast majority of Muslim parents are exactly like the vast majority of any other parents."
So if "human nature is everywhere the same", and this uniform human nature makes the "vast majority" of Muslim parents oh so decent to their children even when their children misbehave against Islam, why are over 80% of Muslim humans in Egypt (to take one example out of the many you cited) avidly supporting the enormity of killing people over "blasphemy"?
Something doesn't compute. As Judge Judy is fond of saying, "When something doesn't make sense, it's not true". And since those poll results are true, that's not what doesn't make sense.
Author Profile Page Stash replied to comment from LemonLime | February 10, 2012 10:54 AM | Reply
People normally won't kill their own children even if they are members of a society that gives them the right to do so...killing someone they don't know who has insulted a belief they have followed their entire life is a different matter.
Author Profile Page duh_swami replied to comment from Stash | February 10, 2012 11:49 AM | Reply
People normally won't kill their own children even if they are members of a society that gives them the right to do so...
Not normally, but Islam is not normal...Permission to kill your children is the enabler of honor killings...Not normal for the rest of the world, but common with Islam...Islam is not a society, it is a hostile hegemonic political system hiding behind religion...
Author Profile Page Abu_Lahab replied to comment from LemonLime | February 10, 2012 12:02 PM |Reply
LemonLime: As Judge Judy is fond of saying, "When something doesn't make sense, it's not true".
I'd suggest that when something doesn't make sense it means you may just notunderstand it, it doesn't change the veracity of the information.
Judge Judy? FFS! [rolls_eyes]
A quote from Socrates, yes, but Judge Judy? Come on!
Author Profile Page Buraq replied to comment from Dee Walid | February 10, 2012 12:12 PM | Reply
In your smug, self-righteous way, you wrote:
We love our prophet, and really if you can't accept that then just keep it in your little minds, no need to say out loud.
So, you love your prophet, so what? Your prophet, not ours. And why can't we, or anyone, say what we like about your prophet? It's called 'freedom of speech'. If you're offended, so what?
We are offended by Islam's claim that Christianity and all other religions are inferior, for one reason or another; but we don't fly planes loaded with innocent passengers into buildings in Mecca to express our feelings of being offended by Islam.
You're a clown!
Author Profile Page exsgtbrown replied to comment from Dee Walid | February 10, 2012 12:49 PM |Reply
"We love our prophet, and really if you can't accept that then just keep it in your little minds, no need to say out loud."
The report was about a Muslim tweeting about his prophet..
Author Profile Page champ | February 10, 2012 12:49 PM | Reply
Dee Walid wrote:
"...his jewish wife, who poisoned him," ...
That Jewish woman is to be commended for stopping such an evil madman, muhammad, from committing more heinous crimes against humanity; and I imagine that she was kicking herself for not killing him sooner. She deserves much applause!
Author Profile Page champ | February 10, 2012 12:59 PM | Reply
This headline bears witness to just how evil and corrupt islam & company truly are--just as Dee's comments bear witness to this fact as well.
Author Profile Page tellurye | February 10, 2012 1:28 PM | Reply
A peaceful Muslim? Calling for someone's death (fatwa)?
NAH! Come on, Robert. You are making that up (insert sarcasm here)!
CAIR mentions nothing of incidents like these. Yet, a Muslim who unknowingly bought a decoy bomb wanting to blow up innocents - CAIR is all over that claiming entrapment.
Author Profile Page BlueRaven | February 10, 2012 1:29 PM | Reply
Crying monkey: observe that change in him between 1:17 and 1:18-in one second flat.
Dee Walid - take another look at the video. The guy is faking it. If you really love Mo, why do you have to kill someone who doesn't? If you believe he/she will be punished till eternity after death by the mighty Alla, then where is the problem? Why do the Muslims want to kill him? Don't you trust your alla? If you love "him", why don't you trust "him" to punish this individual? The people I love, I trust. I trust almighty that I believe. I don't believe there is a punishment waiting for me if I say I don't love "the almighty".
I hope you can understand that you people don't love anything - Alla, Mo, people, animals, plants. You guys throw up some childish tantrums in pretence. You, Mo and his followers are fake. You don't love anyone because Mo never let you to trust anyone hence you'll never learn to love. Mo protected Alla from you (Muslims) - You can't talk to alla like he could. Can't you figure that act was obviously fake - just like that clown monkey in the video?
Author Profile Page champ | February 10, 2012 1:29 PM | Reply
Dee wrote:
"The people of the West really have nothing to be proud about anymore," ...
What with a muslim in the White House, sharia-creep, CAIR & company, and anything islamic being propagated by muslims and/or muslim apologists, then I would have to agree with that particular phrase regarding my beloved America ...
Nobama 2012! ..and lets stop muslim immigration stat; and were it only possible then I would insist that all muslims be sent back to the mothership where they can enjoy hell on earth to their hearts content, and leave freedom loving American's alone. Hey I can dream, can't I?
As to the remainder of the West--it is a whole lot better off without ANY islamic influence. None. Zilch. Nada. Wake up West and take a stand against islam & company.
Author Profile Page BlueRaven | February 10, 2012 1:52 PM | Reply
Dee Walid - If Mo was so great, why he couldn't stop a weak Jewish lady (God bless her soul) poising him (great job!)? Why can't you conclude Mo wasn't a prophet but a biggest con artist of all time - because he has about just over a billion followers 1400 years?
As you said, neither we nor you were around at the time, so what makes you sure that Mo was ever around?
Correct me if I am wrong, Mo was illiterate wasn't he? There was a bunch of different people wrote the Quran, about 400 years after his death. You've heard about the Chinese whisper, right? Don't you think it will be impossible to write something accurate even one day after an event in the year 600 when the education System virtually didn't exist? What is the likelihood that Quran is totally thought of by the people themselves who written it?
Author Profile Page David Dowse replied to comment from Dee Walid | February 10, 2012 2:15 PM |Reply
Dee Walid wrote:
"...but then these are the difference in standards of a muslima and women of all other faiths."
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I'm gonna' tell you something right now, you muslimah wench!
My dear Mother was a Catholic, and as close to a saint as I will ever hope to encounter. Don't you dare lump my Mother into your sick estimation of women of "all other faiths"!
You like your "standards"? Fine. Keep 'em to yourself and don't pretend to pass Mohammedist judgement on all the women of the world who don't fit into your sicko version of morals.
You're disgusting to me - I've read every word you've written on this site since you showed up a few days ago, and I'm embarrased to admit that I already harbor a great deal of animosity toward you.
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